Living Trusts were popularized as a way to avoid probate fees. That is true. A properly funded living trust will avoid probate and therefore the fees associated with probate. In Los Angeles (or for that matter Culver City, Santa Monica, Westchester, Marina del Rey, etc.), that should not be the sole reason for doing a living trust.
The reality is that most outside people will charge a fee for administering a trust as well. This may occur when administering a trust for someone who is incapacitated to act – the alternative to having a trust in this situation is a conservatorship. I will discuss this in another blog.
So what about the fees at death. Sometimes the trust instrument will provide a specific fee. Most banks and trust companies charge between 1% and 2% depending on the size of the trust.
Section 15680 of the California Probate Code speaks to the issue as follows:
(a) Subject to subdivision (b), if the trust instrument provides for the trustee’s compensation, the trustee is entitled to be compensated in accordance with the trust instrument.
(b) Upon proper showing, the court may fix or allow greater or lesser compensation than could be allowed under the terms of the trust in any of the following circumstances:
(1) Where the duties of the trustee are substantially different from those contemplated when the trust was created.
(2) Where the compensation in accordance with the terms of the trust would be inequitable or unreasonably low or high.
(3) In extraordinary circumstances calling for equitable relief.”
In the event that compensation is not specified, Section 15681 of the California Probate Code provides as follows:
“If the trust instrument does not specify the trustee’s compensation, the trustee is entitled to reasonable compensation under the circumstances.”
Therefore, as we see administering a trust is not free! However, there are other reasons for having a living trust besides avoiding conservatorships. These include avoiding probates in multiple states if real estate is owned in more than one state.
A big reason for creating a trust is creating a plan for the distribution of the entire estate. Frequently, people have different beneficiaries on different assets which are not coordinated with their will. Another benefit to having a living trust is avoiding the problems associated with joint tenancy including loss of control and in California, the loss of step-up in basis at the first death.
There are many other reasons to have a living trust; the point of this blog is to explain that there are costs associated with them.